71463 S. STAR/COLT 8RND .45 +5% MAG SPRING Pak of 3 The slide very often cant be pushed or bumped to batterybut not always. ( I dont recall) If I needed to get fancy and do a no reload stage Because of this, the follower reliably engages the slide lock when empty, but it does not sufficiently support its final round as it enters the chamber. TRP has +6k! The case is caught between the slide and the barrel hoodand is standing more or less straight up, mocking you and laughing defiantly. On my Ruger, there was a burr on the lower edge of the ejector. I should sell these rescomp setups highest capicity 40's I ever saw Used to get gauged every now and then. The thing to keep in mind is that the barrel ramp isnt an extension of the feed ramp, and its not a bullet guide. Except for those FTFs, I had no failures to extract and eject the cases though many flew 8 feet or so, mostly to the 3:00 position. After I test fired it, I cleaned it (again, didn't notice anything), lubed it really well, and started racking the slide. I can pull the slide back a little bit, let go, and the round will slide right into the barrel with no effort. If your semi-automatic firearm is having reliability issues, the first thing to check is your detachable magazines. Some of their (carry?) The brain of the shooter is the weakest link after a crappy $39 1911 mag. Working at a gunshop I once corrected a failure to feed on a brand new S&W .380 bodyguard by using my pocket knife to remove the giant chunk of polymer left over from the molding process that was still attached to the portion of the mag catch that engaged the magazineit couldnt actually lock into the mag because of the debris. You may have seen this. thats the reason I carry a ultra lite 5 round 38 and two speed loaders. gonna have to check em out again,, I seem to recall them being 22 rounds with the bolen guts and jacketed ammo loaded with U-dies. I have a S&W 1911 that has recently been failing to feed. Greg K. Aint no 9mm rounds have wax on them. If you have done a 22mag pistol or a 10mm 1911 conversion you may run into this. Question I have - Failure to Eject (casing stuck, not stovepipe) on 9mm 1911 Initially, manufacturer stated original extractor was poorly designed, mailed out re-designed extractor. And they pass mag guage. I use a rail file with two safe sides and one safe edge. He has little 1911 experience. Long-term damage to the barrel lug corners also shows up. That is the question.. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Come join the discussion about optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! . I had 2 mags (rescomp rings a bell) with Bowlen guts and pads that gave me 21 or 22 rounds. My S&W Koenig model had this problem for a while. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. After a good cleaning, the mag was GTG. Instead, I get a bunch of bitching and complaining from people that a) their magazines arejust fine,and b) I dont know what Im talking about because itmustbe something more complicated (and expensive to them). It CANNOT be used as a personal lubricant. . He said yes. --Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790). For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. An experienced pistolsmith might be able to reform the magazine's feed lips, if that is indeed where the problem lies. IIRC the nationals I did in 2010 ish had 18 stages.. If all is within spec mechanically, the pistol will tolerate a surprising amount of tension without causing a problem. You gunsmith will thank you for it. I suspected several probable causes: feed ramp, ammo or magazine.Credit goes to Mr. Ernie Claudio (the 1911 doctor) for helping discover the cause of the feeding problem.Shout out to Chip McCormick magazines! Cleaning is an often-neglected part of firearm maintenance. This is due to the angle in which it is being fed from or an incorrect feed ramp angle. I have a bunch of those, 8 rounders in .45ACP, that I used before I retired from competition. . . 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With eight rounds in the magazine (far left), the cartridge nosedives the most and its average angle is 8.5 degrees below the angle of the feed lips (-8.5). The more likely culprit is the ejector is not properly adjusted. It will start up the ramp but the slide won't continue into battery the last 1/4". Always preferred Dawson followers ISMI springs and Dawson SNL pads. And if you heat the lips to bend them, then youve changed the temper and the mag will never be the same again. Shooters with ACT-MAG and similar magazines are not out of luck, however. Unless you follow the WD40 with a clear solvent. 10/3 108 rounds. Eeny, Meeny, Miny, Moe, Grab a Gun Its Time to Go. If the cartridge enters the chambereven a littlethe malfunction is a failure to go to battery. Factory ammo? In some situations (depending on firearm, ammunition, etc), this could lead to failures beyond those experienced on the last round. Its for squeaky door hinges, or fishing reels, or maybe your kids tricycle, and may make an excellent personal lubricant. Many forms of stainless trade hardness for embrittlement. Regardless, I always inspect and clean them when necessary. It's easy to just stay clear of the American Eagle. So if you are having a magazine issue with any gun, try taking apart your mags and giving them a good cleaning before you start looking for issues with the firearm itself. In our post earlier today on gift ideas for your favorite gun-owning father, Sam Hoober suggested buying pop some quality magazines. come get some. All except for Wilson Combat Stainless mags with the spring ball followers and the witness slots instead of holes. 3 inch is cycling too fast to pick up the last round because the force on the last round in the mag is lower. . Either last week or the week before I found a 22lr (unfired) that had a green plastic looking coating on the bullet. Mr Travis is one of the most knowledgeable people on the 1911 that I have met. 95% of all magazine-related misfeeds are attributable to the spring and/or the follower. The "Stove Pipe" (stovepipe malfunction) is almost always a magazine issue. It looked fairly thick. When its about right, you may have to remove a little from the hook to keep it from bottoming in the extractor groove. Really. This is where the slide out runs the magazine, meaning the round doesn't get pushed up in time to meet the slide. Ever wonder why gunsmiths become acerbic? All semi-autos fed with detachable magazines can have magazine issues. We take a closer look at how magazine design contributes to these woes - and how to fix them. The BOB misfeed is closely related to the Rideover misfeed, and is caused by the same issues. I still love Colt and plan to purchase another 1911 as a way of giving them another chance, but if I have issues with my next purchase then Colt will no longer have me as a 1911 customer. Follower getting stuck before reaching the top of the magazine? My Springfield 1911's (TRP and Range Officer Operator) have no issue with Wilson Combat or stock Springfield magazines. The Colt magazine uses a more reliable, split nose style follower, similar to the original 1911 design. Required fields are marked *. But in CA, they might well think its an anti tank gun. I stick with the Wilsons. It will start up the ramp but the slide won't continue into battery the last 1/4". This usually occurs on the last or next to last round in a magazine. 3D Printed Guns: Catching Up with Ivan T. Spotting Danger Before It Spots You: A Top Situational Awareness Manual, Some Ways To Carry Extra Ammo Are Better Than Others, How To Choose The Best Way To Carry Concealed, ATF Rules Pistols Braces on Pistols are SBRs, Product Warning and Recall Notice SIG SAUER 9MM, 115gr, Elite Ball, FMJ, Ammo Prices are about to Skyrocket! 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These instances are fairly rare, though. Shortened steel followers arent kept as stable in the tubes as the standard 7-round followers, and accomplish the same thing as the incorrect angle when they rock to and fro in the tubes. 22 that had only been rifled half way through, with big curlers of steel sticking out into the bore from the half finished process. Wilson just got that particular stainless perfect for its purpose. The Need for a Trigger Pull Gauge and How To Use It, SKS Magazinesthe Best Upgrade You Can Make on Your SKS, AR-15 BCG Part 2: Extractor, Ejector and Gas Rings, ZEV Technologies Launches Core Combat Rifle Series. We often get a subtle warning that the tension is about to go sideways when we notice erratic ejection in a gun that usually flings the brass into a 3-foot circle. I borrowed magazines from a friend who has a Taurus and the same thing happens, my mags through . An information security professional by day and gun blogger by night, Nathan started his firearms journey at 16 years old as a collector of C&R rifles. As the title suggests I'm having problems with the last round of the magazine not feeding properly in a 5" S & W 1911 e series. I have a rock island armory rock ultra fs in 10 mm it rarely feeds flawlessly on the reload and shoves the bullet into the feed ramp and jams what can I do to fix this issue? This is a magazine spring problem, pure and simple. I know some last round problems can be fixed using John Browning's magazine follower with a dimple. 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Neither I bought worked. I had one FTE a spent brass with the HPR Hyperclean (completely within the chamber), and at least twice the slide did not stay locked on the very last round. Mags were ACT. With the barrel rampaka throattheres more wiggle room as long as the bottom edge of the barrel ramp is sitting slightly forward of the top of the feed rampand even if that gap isnt theremany pistols with the optimum feed ramp will feed hardball without a hitch. I purchased a Rock Island 1911 a couple of weeks ago and find it to be very accurate and easy to handle. I even dropped them in my hand to start with, but that was just too slow. This description raises more questions than it answers - to me, at least. This is also usually from a soft magazine spring. I personally have learned more in depth knowledge of the workings of my favorite handgun by reading and paying attention to Johns words than I have learned in a lifetime of shooting JMBs masterpiece. If youd like to discuss further, hit us up in the comments and well address things in a follow-up article. MecGar. Save yourself time, aggravation, and money by buying quality magazines and maintaining the ones you already own. 10/5 58 rounds. I have tried different brands of brass cased ammo (Remington UMC and WWB) as well as Snap-Caps. Often made worse by overspringing the slide. The hook that is about to snap gives no warning. It never HAS belonged on guns. Your email address will not be published. Although I havent seen limited mags gauged in a LONG time. The feed ramp angle is 31-31.5 degrees with no minus tolerancewhich makes it pretty critical. I had such high hopes and expectations that she would function flawlessly. . We need more info. Your email address will not be published. You would not believe how many FTF issues I diagnose as being a problem with a detachable magazine - 1911's, AR's, M1A . Hey, If you ever see those go on sale again, Id like a couple! document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Enter your email address to subscribe and receive notifications by email. All tilt-barrel locked breech pistols operate with some degree of stem bind. This can create problems, because all of those places are going to make your mags collect dust, dirt and other grime. Throated barrel? Someone commented about rimfire stack up. Bought a couple of PCCs running Glock mags and bought a couple of different types of plastic mags some with steel liners, others, like Amend2 without. In this one, the slide catches the case further forward, and actually rids over the top of it. Simple explanationThe slide literally outruns the magazine. PROMAG SUCKS. Sign up for a new account in our community. Still have Failures to Feed?For all those with 1911 feeding problems (with hollowpoints, semi-wadcutters or flat-nosed bullets), this video may help you narrow down the cause.When testing semi-wadcutters, I encountered failures to feed. I see this one a lot with smooth magazine followersusually the 8-round sticks. When I show people how to clean magazines, and then I show them what I pull out of them (esp. The bullet is crashing into the feed ramp as it is fed from the magazine. In this segment, well concentrate on magazine-related failures. Letting the slide fly free produces no feeding issues with either magazine. I'm thinking it's the ammo, factory .45 ACP Federal American Eagle bulk packed, but it feeds fine in my other 1911's including a S & W 1911sc. Its usually somethin simple. It strips off all oils. The one on the right came with my ATI FX 1911, a Shooters Arms pistol. Here, the amount of extractor deflection is most often at the root of the problem. The amount of the tensioning wall protruding into the breechface feedway determines deflection. The bullet hangs as it tries to slip under the ejector. I like to see .010-.012 inch with a maximum of .015 inch, or about a 64th. In extreme cases, the slide goes to battery on an empty chamber. The round would be resting atop the magazine and appeared to be at an upward angle with the tip of the bullet touching in the vicinity of the top edge of the frame ramp. The point in my gun education where I finally realized this was back in the early 90s. Henrys Single Shot Turkey Camo Shotgun Review: Best Turkey Gun in Production? Grams combo is a good one for sure. We're assuming that the gun hasn't been "tuned" by Dremel Dan and his ugly, stupid first cousin Bubba. The tip to wall distance should be .035-.038 inch with .032 as an absolute minimum. If the bullet nose glances off the feed ramp, and over the top corner of the barrel ramp without touching itor at most, lightly brushing itthe gun will feed like green grease through a sick goose with about any reasonable bullet shape you can throw at it. Whatever it was, WD40 cleaned it. Your mags tend to get dumped into the bottom of a range bag, or carried in a pouch, or just left setting on the shelf while your gun is tucked away in the safe. Then, lightly radius the bottom and top corners of the hook, so that looking at it from the front of the gunit takes on the shape of a D. Back to the frame ramp angle and the accursed 3-Point Jam. Dont toss them just yet! Even there magazines are still a very high number 2. Also for use in McCormick/Shooting Star 8/7 round magazines. You have entered an incorrect email address! And you would not believe how much push-back I get from some gun owners on the issue of it being the magazine. But I just bought it! or Its never been a problem before! or I dont need to spend those big dollars on those fancy-pants magazines! and on and on. Just returned from a four day defensive pistol class at Front Sight in Pahrump, NV where I experienced numerous intermittent failure to feed malfunctions throughout the class. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Enter your email address to subscribe and receive notifications by email. Let us know what topics you would be interested: Stovepipe Malfunctions and Other 1911 (or any) Magazine Problems. For sure try some different ammo. He greatly thought the hammer end of the extractor was too large, the tunnel too small, or the tunnel out of round. 1911 Extractor Diagnosis. While it has yet to cause an issue, this follower is also more prone to tilt when loaded/feeding. I bet they have loads of them. M1 Carbine reproduction about two years ago. Polished feed ramp? That creates a camming surface that opens the extractor more gradually, and it lets the rim get deeper into the extractor before applying full tension. I left one full for years and the other one empty for one firearm and the spring that was compressed for years failed and caused jamming when I finally decided to do some teaching, etc. Fully 95% of all feed-related failures are can be traced straight back to the magazine. What do you think CA would classify this as, a revolver or a mag fed semi-auto? A few years ago, a friend was having trouble with a very new pistol (I dont remember the brand or model). So I just started spitting them in the dirt like a GI mag. Pretty consistently having problems with the last round not feeding especially with the factory magazine. Dont do that. Ill shoot them in a 10/22 but not my Buckmark, cause those mags. Favorite bad mag story: Was at a range once where a guy was trying to shoot a brand new Kimber, kept failing. Now I am stuck with a whole bunch useless of shit.