In the podcast it is incorrectlystatedthat the first three to die were Slobodin, Dyatlov and Kolmogorova. he following outline onthe theory of theDyatlov passincident is rather pragmatic and will probably disappoint those seeking a cryptic mystery or advanced military plots. Hi! The last joining persons that requestedshelter together with the other six, repeatedly tried to fix the constantly failing uppermost part of the bivouac, this from the outside - but they had to give up. Possible light phenomenaor spheres reported in the sky thereafter, cannot be associated with a katabatic wind. stgta Correspondenten Tillbaka efter natten i mystiska passet (4 februari 2019), SR P4 stergtland med Titti Elm De klarade expeditionen till Djatlovpasset (intervju med Andreas & Richard efter Dyatlovexpeditionen 2019)7 februari, kl. Witha body temperature of around 30 degrees Celsius, most becomeunconscious. It is based on our skiing to and stay on the pass in 2019 - and thetheory presented below. I guess it was because they has no time, their fingers were numb because they already had gotten cold, and very likely their clothes were frozen, so no way to put them on quickly. 15). WebAnabatic winds are mainly created by ultraviolet solar radiation heating up the lower regions of an orographic area (i.e. However, perhaps they made one small mistake by not attempting to take their sleeping bags with them. Nothing points to this from the time period. In all there were now nine persons with four wind sacks andsleeping bags, fighting for survival. In a photograph from 1959, Slobodin can be seen posing with a burntjacket. Colonel G. Ortyukov that checked the diary, said that it was empty and thus it was not files as evidence. Although these drainage flows are quite shallow, there is increasing evidence that the low-level circulations are an important component in establishing large-scale tropospheric motions in the high southern latitudes. Hi Rufus! The two men must have fought the worst since the making of a bonfire (as a backup to the bivouac solution) would have been a tremendous challenge in the cold strong wind. The group of two women and seven men were then overtaken by wind speeds up to at least 20 m/s an explosive scenario that erupted out of a rather calm and pleasant skiing tour. One fast way to save a tent from disappearing in the wind, would be too cover the canvaswith the adjacent snow masses a tent whichin turn is sheltered behind an already prepared snow wall/shelf. Yes, it sounds plausible for me as well. I repeat my supposition did on 3-26-2019 . However - me too, it is like you say the life has been consumed for a long time, figuring things out. This under extreme distress. emergency? Even men called `` of reason`` can start to wander. Their productions combine stunning illustrations with well researched and spellbinding narration. This site is very informative and I would and will recommend it to any of my colleagues wishing to also study this magnificent case. New Dyatlov Pass Theory: Katabatic winds : r/AstonishingLegends 06.45. It very much resembled the Dyatlov-groupslast approach from the Auspiya valley and up to the ridge next west of the now named Dyatlov pass. resentingthese authors, I must add that I never understood TV documentaries, podcasts and other articles putting emphasizein cryptozoology and flying saucers as alternative explanations to the group's death. och Dagens Nyheterlrdag med Reportage om Djatlovexpeditionen (12 oktober 2019) Again, the uneven and scooped surface of the snow is very evident in the photo next below (no. The message was sent, it will be published after approval. More than any other theory on the Dyatlov pass incident,that I have taken part of, I believe the Swedish disaster can hold an answer to the now 60 year oldmystery. Gazeta.ru (Russia) - Dyatlov Pass: Swedes horrified by the skiers' tragedy - presenting new details about the case of the Dyatlov group's death., (15 February 2019) This is huge when you consider that the Dyatlov Pass is one of the greatest mysteries of all time! And of course -a sincereapologyto all offended yetis still lurking around in the forests of Ural. [2] A katabatic wind is a downslope flow driven by gravity and pressure gradient forces on a cold sloping surface, which is typically cooled by a negative radiation balance. Possible traces of radioactivity in some clothing, may be explained byfor example Krivonishenkosearlier commitmentin the 1957Kyshtymdisaster. Obviously they raised their tent laterally onthe slope. For me the mystery was more related to their stamina and the impact of weather - how bad could it be? A remark in the diary also clarifies that snow was whirling in the air but not coming from any clouds since the sky was blue. Vetenskapsradion Historia - (direktrapport frn Dyatlovpasset), 5 februari 2019. In the not too distant future your good judgement and fairplay will be emphasized . This was caused by intravital acute toxic pulmonary edema, post-mortem freezing of the corpsesas well as excessive pressure in the abdominal cavity - this due to the decomposition of corpses and accumulation of putrefactive gases. In the comments to the youttube bedtime stories outline of the theory, some viewers have asked why the groups members hadn't put on their clothing. et another three persons, also surprised by the sudden storm, tried to join the shelter. Katabatic winds can rush down elevated slopes at hurricane speeds, but most are not that intense and many a At least we need a well-deserved break before the next batch of theories. Photo: Dyatlov Foundation. Igor Dyatlov would have been well acquainted with this, since he spent time in the area the previous year. The group hastily tried to seek protection which they did in an immediate dug out ditch along the trail. Photo: Dyatlov Foundation, hen touching upon the footprints left in the snow, there are reports of prints mentioned by the first rescuers arriving to the abandoned tent. 17.00. Thanks for this Niklas! Andreas had his own personal questions and expectations from such an undertaking. Language links are at the top of the page across from the title. Thank you so much for your investigative journalism. (13)In the case of the Dyatlov group and as indicated, a flashlight was left to shine on top of the snow pile likely in order for the group to reposess the tent as soon as the sudden and chaotic situationgot under control. Not all downslope winds are katabatic. Lnk 2 Dyatlov Expedition New theory | ARCDOC - Arkeologisk The Santa Ana winds are notorious for fanning regional wildfires, including a series of blazes in October 2007 that scorched more than 500,000 acres and killed 10 15) The Dyatlov group's tent was found the 26th of February partly covered by snow. this is totally unaccuratre, he was found in a way where it looked like he was trhing to crawl back to the tent. I try to be open minded, but as with you, I feel that this might be the case. . A wound in his armpit is perhaps a revealing sign of slipping down against branches. Well,the one who reads theconcluding theory below,ofwhat I reallythink killed the group, he or she will understand that we really had a big reason to be frightened. Inevitably and as we shall see,I believe that this last portion of the event can give us an idea of what Slobodin, Kolmogorova and Dyatlov went through after being unable to save their friends. This whilst the two at the cedar made the fire. This must have been a real tough attempt considering stun hands and feet. High- and low pressures yes, but not what it can cause due to orographic circumstances as so excellently explained by Gnter Wolf on this page. Thanks! I dont like the theory. It is interesting what you say here, because the question is if it was survivable? Di certo hanno fatto tutto ci che era loro possibile fare, con competenza e intelligenza. Yes, the Dyatlov pass incident is different, but not entirely. The question is difficult to answer with the various reports at hand. Theres nothing in it but its wonderfully comfortable and deflation causes an uncomfortable jolt. This prevented warm air to circulate insideand created far too cold sleeping bags. Such winds are sometimes also called fall winds; the spelling catabatic winds is also used. Only one of them survived - this after being found far away from a temporary and insufficient snow shelter made by the core group. Johan - Compared to other wind regimes in the world, Antarctica is known for its katabatic wind regime which is actually driven by cold air, like opening a fridge and when you feel the cold air rushing over your feet, that's the same principle, the same mechanism that's actually governing Antarctic winds. 13.52. I think that all this could have been performed within around 90 minutes and with constant movements it is survivable. Our approach to the Northern Urals and the Dyatlov pass had two main purposes. Not to do so is false science because we are only trying to explain with only what we know and to do so would make us go round and round in circles all the time . Our sleeping bags that could endure temperatures to minus 35, delivered satisfactory. Together we might reach a detailed a likely scenario one day. Thanks! When we through the Swedish Dead Sea Expeditionfound and excavated the Christian and presumedbishopric of Sodoma, we better came tounderstand the complex narrativeof Sodom and Gomorrah. So nice to hear that our experience and thoughts on the matter made sense to you! Do hikers regularly sit around campfire in bare/stocking feet---I feel so !) According to me, the easiest way to cover the tentwas likely toshaveoff the snow shelf next tothe tent - this while standing on the central part of the canvas, after crawling out one by one. One thing that I noticed in documenting your trip is that you said that several of your zippers failed on your equipment. (21)Studying the body positions of Kolevatov, Zolotaryov and Thibeaux-Brignolle, it seems as if they were lying snugly behind each other to keep warm. And the eventin the Ural Mountainscan in my view perhaps be understood quite rationally. As aflight instructor since 1986, hehas been intensively involved in meteorology since the start. Little did they know - and little are we still today prepared for any analogous and local occurrences. is also used. Katabatic Winds. Excuse me but I don`t see DISCLAIMER on Dyatlov pass.com anymore . Anything thatsticksup andremainsin that position - will likely stay in the way you left it. 1993; Wendler et al. I really appreciate your approach, because it makes us better and it makes us think about the case in a sober way. The persons wearingvalenki (felt boots), like the ones found onThibeaux-Brignolle,would have last muchlonger. 14.04. Thanks! SR P4 Extra (Stockholm) med Titti Schultz - (intervju med Andreas & Richard om Dyatlovexpeditionen 2019 & 1959), 19 februari, ca. Well, thank you Nemo for both celebrating the effort to ski there but also to raise pertinent questions.