3 0 obj The Zhuangist Views on Emotions. Asian Philosophy 28.1: 5567. The Zhuangzi () is named after Zhung Zhu (), who flourished in the later half of the fourth century bce. 3 In fact, in Zhuangzis case, the featured voices are often non-human. In fact, there is more value in destroying it than keeping it around. Now imagine we were discussing an idea, say, a potential solution to a problem. Saggi in onore di Lucia Pizzo Russo, la neurofenomenologia. The Writings of Kwang-Tze. endobj Beijing : Shangwu Yinshuguan . 7Then there are other thought experiments where the humans themselves are unique. 2002-2022 The Linguist Institute, Inc. All rights reserved. Springer Nature remains neutral with regard to jurisdictional claims in published maps and institutional affiliations. Lin, Yutang , trans. 1985. Zhuangzi vres De Tchoang-Tzeu. Les fondements philosophiques de la rhtorique chez les sophistes grecs et chez les sophiste chinois. Zhang, Mosheng, , trans. 2019. 4This paper has two main sections. I know it by standing here on the bridge of the River Hao.. Anecdotes and thought experiments in Zhuangzi and Western What is there to dislike? This seems at odds with Zhuangzi as one of the two main Revisiting the Exchange between Zhuangzi and Huizi 13Zhuangzi is known for giving voice to many different creatures humans of all sorts and a host of animals as well. In fact, in Zhuangzis case, the featured voices are often non-human. https://www.academia.edu/35172330/Zhuangzis_Doctrine_of_No_Emotions_forthcoming_in_Dao_Companion_to_the_Philosophy_of_the_Zhuangzi_Kim_Chong_Chong_and_Kai_Yuan_Cheng_eds_final_draft (last accessed on October 12, 2020). Zhuangzi then states to him Youcertainly are dense when it comes to using big things! Early Confucian Perspectives on Emotions. In Dao Companion to Classical Confucian Philosophy, edited by Vincent Shen. https://scholarworks.iu.edu/dspace/handle/2022/23427 (last accessed on November 27, 2020). Are we just engaging in irresponsible moral epistemology in using hypothetical thought experiments and taking them, at best, as tools of persuasion to belief in a certain claim and, at worst, as grounds of evidence for a position? 15Or to take an example not from ethics, John Searle writes about being in a room with a manual that helps him to correlate certain Chinese characters such that he can answer questions given to him in Chinese (even though he knows no Chinese) by referring to a manual written in English about which characters to give in response to which character inputs. Napoli: Universit degli Studie di Napoli LOrientale.. 27In comparison, Zhuangzis stories arguably fail as good thought experiments because there often isnt a clear question being asked, nor is it always evident what position Zhuangzi is trying to advance, what distinctions or aspects of the story he thinks are important, etc. Wandering on the Way. Huizi said to Zhuangzi, This old tree is so crooked and rough that it is useless for lumber. endobj Abstract On a prima facia reading, Zhuangzi seems to endorse some form of skepticism or relativism. Bradenton, FL: BookLocker. Monica Link, Anecdotes and thought experiments in Zhuangzi and Western philosophy ,Rivista di estetica, 72|2019, 7-18. On Anger: An Essay on Confucian Moral Psychology. In Returning to Zhu Xi: Emerging Patterns within the Supreme Polarity, edited by David Jones and Jinli He. 11As mentioned before, Dancy explains that sometimes we come up with an imaginary case because its relevantly similar to an actual case, but the imaginary case is easier for us to think through. This is the necessary humility for one to overcome his arrogance. Zhuangzis famous story about the crooked tree appeals to me for many reasons. WebThinking outside of convention vs. Huizi's logic Turn gourds into buoys The value of uselessness The useless tree - because its not useful to the world it can grow and Well end by analyzing a parablea conversation between logician Huizi and a fictionalize version of Zhuangzi himself: Huizi said to Zhuangzi, The King of Wei gave me the seed of a great gourd. Thats what fish really enjoy!. China. Our text offers three additional examples: Nie Ques conversation with Wang Ni; Huizi and Zhuangzi about gourds; the story of Cook Ding (sometimes called Butcher Ding); and the story of Wheelwright Pian. %PDF-1.5 4 0 obj In The Sacred Books of the East, edited by F. Max Mller. Our hypothetical logician has forgotten that for an argument to be sound the premises must be true and they must follow to the conclusion. Does that mean Zhuangzi approves of Master Chariots accepting attitude? 21Van Norden makes the following comment on this story as it relates to an overarching theme we see in Zhuangzi about freeing the mind: By stressing flexible responsiveness to particular contexts, Zhuangzi encourages us to think in creative and nontraditional ways. Zhuang Zi and the Education of the Emotions. Comparative Philosophy 9.1: 3246. He does this because he knows his logic to be validthat is to say, he knows that his premises and conclusions follow. This is uncharacteristic of Western thought experiments where the philosopher presents the imagined case and then discusses what it implies. 2007. One thing that does seem clear is that Zhuangzi advances the view that anything one asserts is necessarily from a certain perspective. Chen, Guying , trans. With Zhuangzi, however, its not clear that understanding his stories is supposed to lead us back to some aspect of human life. On another nearby track there is only one person working. Liu, Xiaogan. Zhuangzi describes a man who is skilled at making balm to keep the hands from chapping (p. 7).4 His family never earns Morgan, Jeffrey. Still, Zhuangzis resulting conclusion was not aware of fish happiness presumes that fish happiness is a real thing beyond the human-specific setting. The Tradition of Emotive Writing in the Zhuangzi and Its Echoes in Later Generations. Frontiers of Philosophy in China 10.3: 340352. 1995. He sees his potential and is motivated as if by a guiding star upon which a wish might be fulfilled. One reason New York: Columbia University Press. 1 0 obj In this article we focus on the famous dialogue between Zhuangzi and Huizi concerning the question whether or not ren (in particular the shengren ) have qing . Levi, Jean, trans. 2013. WebHuizi said to Zhuangzi, Can a ren indeed be without qing? The reply was, He can.But on what grounds do you call him a ren, who is thus without qing? Zhuangzi said, The A Complete Translation of the Zhuangzi [in modern Chinese] . Assignment: the stories of chuang tzu Research Gist Jena: Diederichs. ______. It was big and all, but because it was so useless I finally just smashed it to pieces., Zhuangzi said, You are certainly stupid when it comes to using big things. 1913/1983. Albany: State University of New York Press. Emotions and Genuineness in Chinese Native Thinking: A Response to Graham and Hansen ():. Journal of Beijing Youth Politics College 14.1: 4852. I filled it with liquid, but it was not firm enough to lift. Zhang, Gengguang , trans. 2011. https://www.academia.edu/35172330/Zhuangzis_Doctrine_of_No_Emotions_forthcoming_in_Dao_Companion_to_the_Philosophy_of_the_Zhuangzi_Kim_Chong_Chong_and_Kai_Yuan_Cheng_eds_final_draft (last accessed on October 12, 2020). Les vres de Matre Tchouang. MEDITATIONS: ZHUANGZI, CHAPTER ONE PART THREE Das wahre Buch vom sdlichen Bltenland. The Philosophy of Life: A New Reading of the Zhuangzi. 2016. Part of Springer Nature. New York: Columbia University Press. WebHuizi and Zhuangzi. ______. Huizi destroys is because it is worthless to him but Zhuangzi gets mad and says that he could have used it WebZhuangzi is criticizing his friend Huizi for smashing giant gourds because he couldnt find a conventional use for them. Dancy is mainly concerned with thought experiments in ethics, and in defending a version of moral particularism, although some of what he says can be applied to thought experiments generally. Chuang-Tzu: The Inner Chapters. Once weve gotten the message e.g., about utilitarianism, physicalism, or transformations in life Zhuangzi is suggesting that in some sense we can leave behind the artificial intellectual trap that got us the idea. How does what he say in other places help us to understand what he might be saying in this passage? 5Thought experiments have long been used in philosophy as a way to raise questions or pursue knowledge through considering hypothetical situations. 2011. 25 One could, for example, think here of Zhuangzis famous butterfly dream that concludes chapter 2 of the Zhuangzi or of his testimony about his reaction to his wifes death in chapter 18. First I will discuss Western thought experiments and a few reasons that have been given for and against using these tools to acquire knowledge. Zhuangzi, the Taoist philosopher, lived in. In The Sacred Books of the East, edited by F. Max Mller. Ren, Songyao. He presupposes the correctness of his own logic, and when the world shows him that he is incorrect, say through his failure to actualize some potential, he takes this as evidence that the world is incorrect. Klein, Esther. Think of the crooked tree. Why should we be so troubled by an arm that turns into a rooster? Sign up to the Wild Isle Mailing List for exclusive previews, updates, and opportunities. We might glean this lesson from taking in a set of Zhuangzis stories, with the assumption that he has some consistent view. 2010. Zhuangzis Doctrine of No-Emotion (pre-production draft). Do computers understand things the way humans do? 1995. Fraser, Chris. 2008. His language did not hit his target the intent to make sense of things. This suggests that Zhuangzi saw Hui Shi as caught in a paradox. Hui Tzu10 said to Chuang Tzu, "The king of Wei gave me some seeds of a huge gourd. <> Huizi believes his knowledge is sufficiently complete as to be capable of using rational deduction to come to only correct answers. 2015. A Didactic Annotation to the Zhuangzi . Zhang, Gengguang , trans. Jackson uses this thought experiment to argue that because Mary gains some knowledge the first time she sees red, she didnt know everything to know about color through knowing all the physical facts about color and so, he says, the thesis of physicalism (i.e., the idea that everything is physical) is false.8. Nozick, R., 1974,Anarchy, State, and Utopia, New York, Basic Books. Zhuangzi. Watson, Burton, trans. Lenehan, Katia. Foot, P., 1967, The problem of abortion and the Doctrine of Double Effect, Oxford Review, V. Hochsmann, H., Guorong, Y., 2007, Zhuangzi, Boston, Pearson Education. Schipper, Kristofer, trans. Registered in England & Wales No. Dordrecht: Springer. crits de Matre Wen , . New York: Seven Bridges Press. Qu Yuan was a versatile government official at that time, and he was highly The question of what exactly Zhuangzis positive project might be is beyond the scope of this paper, but the point remains that the idea that we are even wondering about who Zhuangzi is as a philosopher, or how he would want us to analyze him in light of his stories, is something that we dont typically see when we turn to Western philosophers advancing certain thought experiments. XIVSwimming Happily in Chinese Logic - Oxford Academic People also read lists articles that other readers of this article have read. Or in Jacksons case, why couldnt he just have stated that there are things about our experience of color that cannot be learned through propositions in science? Zhuang Zi: De volledige geschriften: Het grote klassieke boek van het Taosme Amsterdam: Uitgeverij Augustus. Ma, Lin, and Jaap van Brakel. ______. Many involve imagining human beings as participants. Rather, we are freed when we can leave this (human) self and life behind. 2001. New York: Seven Bridges Press. Ziporyn, Brook, trans. This was in the introduction to my book, The Linguist, A Personal Guide to Language Learning which I wrote a few years ago. M7. Assignment- The Stories of Chuang Tzu.docx - Course Hero 2011. 2001. And often, they do. 2004. This is a preview of subscription content, access via your institution. 2007. Moreover, by elaborating on the implicit premises omitted by Zhuangzi and Huizi, the actual logical process of the debate can be restored, and the logical fallacy of clandestine change of argumentative issue are revealed. At other times, he presents a story and just leaves it more up to the reader to interpret. 18In this vein perhaps we could draw an analogy between Zhuangzis work and some works in modern art where its not always clear to the observer what the artist was going for. Roth, Harold D. 1991. 13 Roy Sorensen 1992 has a discussion of several criticisms on the use of thought experiments, stories, and intuition pumps, as Daniel Dennett calls them. The Asian master of wit and storytelling is the Daoist, Zhuangzi (sometimes spelled Chuang-Tzu). 2014. The Unskilled Zhuangzi: Big and Useless and Not So Theory of Non-Emotion in the Zhuangzi and Its Connection to Wei-Jin Poetry. Journal of Chinese Philosophy 40.2: 340354. You get something when its time. Monica Link, Anecdotes and thought experiments in Zhuangzi and Western philosophy ,Rivista di estetica [Online], 72|2019, online dal 01 mars 2020, consultato il 02 mai 2023. URL: http://journals.openedition.org/estetica/5889; DOI: https://doi.org/10.4000/estetica.5889, Creative Commons - Attribuzione - Non commerciale - Non opere derivate 4.0 Internazionale - CC BY-NC-ND 4.0, https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/, Vedi la notizia bibliografica nel catalogo OpenEdition, Mappa del sito Contatti Crediti RSS Feed, Norme sulla privacy Cookie Policy Segnala un problema, Noi aderiamo a OpenEdition Edito con Lodel Accesso riservato, Sarai reindirizzato su OpenEdition Search, Briding traditions. 2018. You can divert the trolley to another track that only has one person on it. My shoulders are peaked. She knows an enormous amount of information about color, much more than you or I do, but is there anything she doesnt know about color if she has only read all about it? Leiden: Brill. For example, consider the story in Chapter 6 of a man who is physically deformed. Huizi and Zhuangzi about gourds; the story of Cook Ding (sometimes called Butcher Ding); and the story of Wheelwright Pian. ______. Zhuangzi - Chapter 1 (Carefree Living) - Huizi's Giant Gords For example, we might want to interpret Master Chariots story in light of other thingsZhuangzi says about the natural transformation of things25 and conclude that Zhuangzi is trying to say that transformation (whether an arm into a rooster, or life into death) is nothing to fear or avoid. And like Zhuangzis creative innovation, turning a gourd into a boat, the greater, higher man recreates what is possible for himself. Wieger, Lon, trans. This is what the ancients call loosing the bonds. The Philosophy of Life: A New Reading of the Zhuangzi. Das wahre Buch vom sdlichen Bltenland. over 2,300 years ago He taught the Tao, or way, an approach to life based on effortlessness and harmony with First, we demonstrate that, while Huizi probably understands qing as something like feelings or emotions, Zhuangzis view is that having qing is connected with making shifei judgments whereas having no qing means that shifei has no grip on those ren, especially the shengren. Were There Inner Chapters in the Warring States? . Chai, David. https://doi.org/10.1007/s11712-020-09765-6, DOI: https://doi.org/10.1007/s11712-020-09765-6. 1993. One reason For example, in Chapter 1 of the Zhuangzi there is the story of a fish named Minnow turning into a bird named Breeze and being laughed at by the cicada and student-dove.19 Here Zhuangzi suggests that it is only because the little bugs have such a small perspective that they cant understand bigger things, so while its understandable that they laugh, its due to a short-sightedness on their part. A logical analysis of the debate on Hao River - Taylor & Francis Uselessness. Taipei : Shijie Shuju ; http://www.terebess.hu/english/chuang.html (last accessed on October 12, 2020). Anyone you share the following link with will be able to read this content: Sorry, a shareable link is not currently available for this article. By closing this message, you are consenting to our use of cookies. (LogOut/ Wieger, Lon, trans. 2013. Or consider the story of Huizi and the yard-long gourd that was too big to be a ladle so Huizi smashes it because it was useless.20 Zhuangzi then tells a story about a smart traveler who knew how to make good use of an ointment for chapped hands. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Zhuangzi and Huizi were strolling along the dam of the Hao Waterfall when Zhuangzi said, See how the minnows come out and dart around where they please! It is to Zhuangzi that we now turn. Zhuangzi on happy fish and the limits of human knowledge Article Must? Bradenton, FL: BookLocker. Taipei : Shijie Shuju ; http://www.terebess.hu/english/chuang.html (last accessed on October 12, 2020). Besides, at the very least, thought experiments and stories can show us candidates for what we might concern ourselves with.14. School of Philosophy, Renmin University of China (Zhe-xue-yuan), Av. Yet he commits this very sin, and all because he feels he reached a valid conclusion. Beijing : Zhonghua Shuju . My premises and conclusion follow from each other; therefore, me conclusion is logically valid. 2010. Emotion and Agency in Zhuangzi. Asian Philosophy: An International Journal of the Philosophical Traditions of the East 21.1: 97121. Zhuangzi on Qing: Lack of Qing, Giving Free Reign to Qing, and Setting Qing at Rest :. Philosophical Researches 4: 5059. 2015. So I smashed them.2. I used them as water containers, but they were so heavy that I couldn't lift them. 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