That introduction to the Northern Michigan Christian Academy and the Northern Michigan Baptist Bible Church, in turn, put her into an orbit with the Chatfield family. var m3_r = Math.floor(Math.random()*99999999999); We ended moving when my daughter was 6 months old to a new town several hours away for my husbands work. When I had the realization that the god of the bible was a myth, I suddenly felt so free. I looked at her and thought "there is no way this little person is evil. This thread is archived New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast comments . Former Independent Fundamental Baptists - IFB KJV Join group About this group A group for those who have formally been associated with the Independent Fundamental Baptist movement, IFB. "A Course of Love" with Lucille Olson- 7 p.m. Zoom ID: 177 417 886. I had a brother (well, more than one) just like Josh. KJV. Young boys in these homes and churches are taught to be authoritarian leaders, mean and aggressive men when they grow older. The ones in Amish country have buggy tie ups outside and. [CDATA[ Former independent fundamental baptist church members what was the craziest thing you heard was a sin did you do it before and after. She met her future brother-in-law when he was a teacher, coach and the schools athletic director. This is an independent fundamental Baptist program that has chapters in churches all across the country. My point, though, is for you to use your timing. Counseling has helped that a lot. She confirmed that the strict authoritarianism of Chatfields church and school was a contributing factor to her alleged abuse and exploitation by Lee Chatfield. They married when both were 19. I suppose they would call it "tough love" or some such. Pearl advised the father to tell the child to be quiet or he would be spanked. Lo, children are an heritage of the LORD: As arrows are in the hand of a mighty man; Happy is the man that hath his quiver full of them: but they shall speak with the enemies in the gate. Only the witch-doctor can protect you from the evils of the world. Your story is so important to be told and I am so glad you are here at ex-c to speak out about quiverfull. No matter what she does I would never treat her that way. "Independent" is part of their name for a reason. We hope you will! All of the people interviewed in this story said that interracial relationships, or relationships with someone from a different religion, even other Christians, were either banned or discouraged. The co-founder, Paul Kingsbury, recently was forced to leave his position at North Love Baptist Church in Rockford, Ill., for his role in helping a sex offender avoid prosecution by supporting him overseas as a missionary. Megyn Kelly interviews Michelle & Jim Bob Duggar youtube. The Inquisitr. Having sex out of wedlock, Rebekah Chatfield explained, was tantamount to being married in the eyes of God. The anger is slowly fading toward them. Having only been raised in those and informed if we ever went to a different church then God would strike us dead, we attended the same even after marriage, despite all the anxiety it caused. My favorite thing I have done so far since deconverting was running out and chopping my hair off in a funky asymmetrical Bob and getting bright purple highlights. I hope your husband will follow the logical path out of christinsanity with you. Scan this QR code to download the app now. We were not allowed to date at all. From the time I was young, I remember we always had to wear skirts, keep our hair long (well the girls at least), were constantly reminded to dress and act modestly so we didnt tempt men into sin, and were taught to keep silent in the church. You dont want people looking at her in 10 years, when shes 15, and singing her heart out in the choir and saying, Oh, thats that poor girl who was abused, she said a pastor had told her. One other thing, take your time about coming out to your husband, family and others until YOU are ready. We followed the courtship model of finding a spouse and were heavily guarded by our parents the entire time to make sure we didnt touch the other person, kiss, or in any way have any kind of untoward contact. Gothards curriculum was used by the Duggar family of the television show 19 Kids and Counting. In 2003, the couples eldest son admitted to touching two of his sisters. Parents of adults primarily use religion and/or money as ways of controlling and, manipulating their adult children. A few years later we moved again to a new state where he once again was a youth/assistant pastor and after a few years there, he resigned, we moved again (this time in the same state), and he started his own church. Bill, I wrote them a letter in November telling them in no uncertain terms would I let them run my life anymore and I was done being scared of what they thought or would do. History [ edit] The Duggar family, so much in the news lately, are Independent Fundamental Baptists (IFB), a loosely affiliated, singularly cultish denomination of Christian fundamentalists. Their religion has taught them to fear everything outside their pod. I have never felt so happy and free.". '&charset='+document.characterSet : '')); Emily, who is using an alias to discuss what she described as the brutal sexual assault of her young daughter, was a teacher at a school attached to another rural northern Michigan IFB church. Non christians committed suicide because they were joyless, had depression because they were selfish, and drank too much to ward off the feeling that they were missing God in their lives. zoneId = 'Array'; if (document.MAX_used != ',') document.write ("&exclude=" + document.MAX_used); Josh Duggar was treated with a program whose co-founder supports a sex offender. When I became pregnant, we were attending an IF Baptist church. The problem is I am being drug down from this happiness whenever I discuss this issue with my wife or other family members. He is pastor of Faithful Word Baptist Churchin Tempe, Arizona. He said that congregants and leaders simply do not expect such abuses to happen in their midst not under Gods eye. Women are definitely positioned as the temptress, Skwarczynski explained. I believe this kind of idea is also what led to my acceptance of the reality of "biblegod's" non-existence. It was difficult. IFB churches believe that no one has authority over the church except Jesus Christ. document.write ('&cb=' + m3_r); '&charset='+document.characterSet : '')); After doing some reading lately, I realize we fell into the Quiverfull/Christian patriarchy family types as well, though we didnt adhere strictly to either one as my dad prided himself on following God only and not any one man. 4. Editors Note: The Independent Fundamental Baptist Church movement is separate from the New Independent Fundamental Baptist Church, which the Anti-Defamation League has designated as a hate group. Not to mention of course the psychological impact of the repressive and abusive environment fostered by the philosophy. At least, he got the dress part right, right? 'https://citypulsebanners.creativecirclemedia.com/www/delivery/ajs.php':'http://citypulsebanners.creativecirclemedia.com/www/delivery/ajs.php'); The aim is to help people escaping from Quiverfull/Patriarchal xianity, wherever they are at on their journey. I am glad you are here and look forward to reading more of your posts. "God" is a projection of mankind's basic fear of being alone and his fear of the unknown, and of course the fear of death. First of all, I admire your courage in speaking out. I had to look up "quiverfull." During this time, many of the largest churches in the United States were IFB congregations. I do feel happy that they will never hurt my child like they did me because they will have no presence in her life. He was a decent guy who while not believing exactly what my parents believed was at least a Christian and passed that test so was okay for me to see. If your parents were wrong, God would still protect you from anything bad happening because you are under that umbrella of protection, Woodbury explained. Once those to things have occurred the you have the ability to terminate their manipulation and. Nichols declined to explain why he is representing him, confirm this story or facilitate interview requests with Chatfield. if (document.mmm_fo) document.write ("&mmm_fo=1"); If such physical relationships were discovered as was the case with Chatfield and her husband, Aaron marriage in the church is required in order to satisfy Gods commandments. Because of their reality TV show, the Duggars and their particular brand of Christianity made its way into the homes of Americans, both fans and critics alike. I was disappointed. : Freedom, liberty, history, politics, psychology, medicine, arts, sciences, games, sensational sex, jamming with friends, good food, drink, and conversation. women) who were raised in such an environment: http://www.patheos.com/blogs/nolongerquivering/, http://www.patheos.com/blogs/lovejoyfeminism/. How come many Americans haven't heard of the Independent Fundamental Baptist church movement? This teaching tells members, especially women, that as long as they stay under their umbrella, stay in their submissive and rightful role, nothing no sin, no harm, not even sexual assault can hurt them. Enjoy your small, cosey family! ), and stopped praying over our food. Yet no matter how much they despise the church they attend they keep goin back because the Bible says "forsake not the assembling together of believers" I never hear anything positive from them about church but that doesn't stop them. Explaining the Differences Between NIFB, IFB and IBLP - No Longer Quivering Lydia Joy Laundervilleis a freelance writer in Ivor, Va., who covers an array of topics, including health and lifestyle, with a special focus on religious abuse and trauma recovery. if (document.mmm_fo) document.write ("&mmm_fo=1"); Private Only members can see who's in the group and what they post. I am a former Independent Fundamental Baptist (IFB), who now embraces Reformed Theology. They then sent Josh to a faith training center located in Little Rock, Ark., that belonged to an independent fundamental Baptist organization called the Institute in Basic Life Principles created by Bill Gothard. Welcome to Ex-C! It was called Mr. Blue. A lot of people ask how this could have happened. They've lived like pod people, afraid of the wide scary world outside of their pod. Visit our Resource Page (https://www.reddit.com/r/exchristian/wiki/resources) for help. document.write ("&loc=" + escape(window.location)); They sting and you can hit somebody really hard and a glue stick wont leave a mark, Woodbury said. Itll make you red, but it wont leave a bruise so theres no evidence.. Holding hands, kissing and hugging are all strictly prohibited. Fathers pray about matches, then discuss it among themselves. And while each church is subject to the pastor who leads it, the confederacy churches share a circuit of camps, retreats, evangelists, spiritual mentors, experts, private colleges and universities constantly cross-pollinating their controversial theologies. When they did that, my siblings followed suit. By now Ive written about everything from ants to skyscrapers and met more fascinating and wonderful people than I can count. Its first school superintendent was Norm Olson, an Alanson native who came to national prominence during the 1995 Oklahoma City bombings, which killed 168, as a cofounder of the Michigan Militia. document.write ("'><\/scr"+"ipt>"); And catholics, well, we were all going to hell anyhow. The psychologist said that he believes with little doubt that my crazy religious upbringing caused the PTSD and that while I probably had a propensity for bipolar already that my parents unbringing pulled the trigger. I am the daughter of an IFB missionary/evangelist, sister of an IFB pastor, and granddaughter of an IFB pastor. It was stifling to say the least. Josh Duggar: Founder of reformers unanimous accused of sex abuse cover-up protecting sex offender from prosecution: Report. It didnt work. She can't be." I have been working on this testimony for a bit now. zoneId = '7'; Listen to the testimony of a person who. Josh Duggar found guilty of federal child pornography charges. I missed the birth of my niece and several other big family events during this time, which hurt a lot. Chatfields solution was to tell the pupils to beat up the offending child if he assaulted any of them. This image was widely distributed on Twitter following City Pulses report Chatfield was under criminal investigation for alleged sex abuse. zoneId = 'Array'; When she was born she was perfect. document.write ("&loc=" + escape(window.location)); so despite still going to church I refused to mention God at home, didnt tell her bible stories (they are morbid anyway! New York Post. Heiler said that IFB churches also have rigid expectations of modesty and purity, which extends into strict dress codes. Ugh. Thats where Heiler met her abuser, who has already been convicted in Washington state for sexually assaulting her and is awaiting trial in Michigan for another alleged assault.